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lastcenturykindagirl:

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telaryn:

lastcenturykindagirl:

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lastcenturykindagirl:

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lastcenturykindagirl:

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lastcenturykindagirl:

telaryn:

becketted:

“Trying to distance yourself from everyone else so they don’t drown in your wake? I invented that move.”

CAN THIS FUCKING SHOW STOP HAVING PEOPLE TELL DAISY HER TRAUMA IS JUST LIKE THEIRS AND THAT THEY KNOW BETTER THAN HER HOW TO HANDLE IT? No, this show can’t fucking stop, apparently.

“Phil Coulson.

He found me in that cubicle and dragged me out.

He didn’t give up on me… and he won’t give up on you.”

Er, May, you don’t remember the show? After Bahrain you weren’t in contact for like six years. And the reason you and Coulson went back to having a friendship is because Fury sent you to spy on Coulson and make sure he didn’t find out about Tahiti? What is this re-writing history going on here.

Also I should make a post about the erasure of Andrew Garner in this particular rewriting of history. (Andrew was the person who never gave up on May, Andrew was the person May chose to return to a relationship with, of her own volition, not because she had orders. But okay show, be this racist)

“You don’t get to choose who cares about you.”

Well, no but Daisy gets to choose what the fuck to do with her life and how she handles her trauma. WHO THE FUCK CARES IF COULSON LOVES HER? That doesn’t mean she has to stay or be friends with Coulson. If she doesn’t want to talk to Coulson ever again in her life that’s Daisy’s choice, and there’s nothing wrong in it. IT’S HER FUCKING CALL. She shouldn’t have to care more about other people’s feelings and opinions about her trauma when she makes choices about it.

What the fuck is this weird entitlemente everybody in this team has to Daisy’s presence. She doesn’t owe anyone being there hanging out with them. Why is everybody guilt-tripping her like they own her and Daisy staying away is somehow such a personal offense?

Again, no compassion for Daisy herself, it’s all about Coulson and how May apparently thinks he’s entitled to Daisy’s friendship because he “won’t give up”. I mean this show has a tendency to write May throwing people under the bus to prop Coulson up, which is one of the reasons why their dynamic grosses me out so much and why I think it’s so detrimental to her character.

I love Coulson and I DON’T GIVE A SHIT IF HE GETS SAD BECAUSE DAISY WON’T BE FRIENDS WITH HIM. That’s Daisy’s call, he is not entitled to her time or friendship.

“Lincoln wouldn’t want you killing yourself over what happened.”

Wow, and to top off the grossness of the episode we have some good guilt-tripping Daisy into making other decisions by using the memory of her shitty ex-boyfriend who died for her, saying he wouldn’t like what she is doing. By the way this is a terrible, terrible thing to say to a depressed person, let alone if you really believe they are suicidal. WHO THE FUCK WOULD WRITE THIS. Also please never let this person write my baby Daisy ever again.

So next week is Coulson’s turn to be a complete asshole to Daisy or will the rest of the team take a second swing at her? I’m just curious.

You know what bothered me the most about this diatribe from May?  Well, aside from the sloppy writing and ignorance of canon, because yes to absolutely everything cited here…

This came off like a speech a mother gives to her daughter.  Which I’m sure has the Team!Bus and Ph*llinda crowd feeling all righteously justified, but doesn’t work for a nearly thirty year old woman and her supervising officer who met each other less than five years ago.

If it’s that, it comes off as the way I’d never want my mother to talk to me?  See, I read it as May being an S.O., because she’s still never related to Daisy as anything other than an agent, really.  (I think she was about to in the S3 finale, and then Gyera knocked her out.)

But then, May’s own mother talks to her like she’s her disappointed S.O., too.  The funny thing is Daisy is still one of the most emotionally mature people on that team? She’s just trying to cope and the others are projecting all over her.

It makes sense that they wouldn’t be emotionally mature since they’ve been in SHIELD their whole lives and have no other frame of reference for how people actually deal with problems and trauma. They’ve got Psych evals and all that but no real coping mechanisms that don’t involve suppressing trauma to complete the mission. It’s one thing to know something is wrong with you and another to learn how to deal with it in a healthy way. For May that is to suppress it rather than to deal with it because that is the only logical way. Which sounds to me to be the SHIELD way. Compartmentalize your pain and move on.

But Coulson’s not like that.

Not anymore because he died. He used to be. He told May what he thought she needed to hear at Bahrain and May is doing the same. But he never dealt with his own issues.

After Coulson died and came back he changed completely. He’s more in tune with his own emotions now and not afraid of dealing with his own problems like everyone else. He’s made some amazing progress with his traumatic amputation and that was a huge issue for him last season.

Yes, and May talked to Daisy about Coulson’s heart.

Because she has to know that Daisy IS his heart, just as she knows he is Daisy’s.

Yeah, because I think when she saw him when she died, he said something to her.  About Daisy.

Ironically?  Below this post on my dash is an image somebody’s reblogged of Coulson, May and Daisy from the episode.

It’s captioned “Being scolded by your parents.”

Oh, I knew people would say that, though.  They say that any time the characters are in the same scene together, even if it doesn’t support their views, and even when Daisy is write about things from the narrative perspective.

The thing is, May deliberately did not share with Coulson what she said to Daisy about him.  She didn’t want him to know?

Which in very curious. She’s always a very to the point no nonsense person so for her to not tell him what she told Daisy has to mean that if he knew he either wouldn’t like it or it would hit to close to home

It could even be foreshadowing his death? Because she says that Coulson will “never give up on her”?  If their idea of “spacetime” is a place where time does not exist? I mean, I don’t put it past the show, even though I think killing him twice would be a bit much.

Nah I don’t think killing Phil is on the horizon. That would be the worst marketing mistake they could make. Plus it would destroy Daisy. If anything spacetime is going to be used to show their connection to each other or to a grander design. If May saw Phil when she was dead she was dead for a long time because he had a message for her.

lastcenturykindagirl:

captainskyson:

So I really like what @lastcenturykindagirl said in a long discussion post, and I copied it and shared it here, and I hope you don’t mind? I just really like and agree with what you considered as far as the other’s reactions toward Daisy. You put it in a short and simple way I hadn’t figured out how to do, yet!

“I could see May just thinking Daisy needs stability and discipline because of her powers because May is like that about herself and has control issues.
I mean, this all could be written this way in order to have Daisy and the team “make up” so they can share what they mean to each other? All of the ways they have criticized Daisy are their own insecurities. The show has already made it clear that Daisy left for reasons they’re not seeing or able to empathize with.
The people who do empathize with her are the guy who is crazy in love trusts her implicitly, and another Inhuman.
Shitz gets insecure when he thinks someone doesn’t need him. Mack has trust issues because of the fall of SHIELD. Simmons ends up helping Daisy but tries to mother her first. May thinks Daisy needs to be in control.”

Oh, sure! I think they’re all projecting onto her.  While Coulson is thinking about what she wants/needs and is not putting his own emotions first. It’s obvious in the scene in the hanger he’s setting his own feelings about the matter to the side for the moment and is just glad she’s safe.